tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6881167609055073107.post4111349719390171732..comments2023-10-04T10:32:39.971-04:00Comments on Knollnews: On Conscientious ObjectionFr. Joe Veneroso, M.M.http://www.blogger.com/profile/14840721527903595971noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6881167609055073107.post-66722733646275946412011-04-30T18:52:14.495-04:002011-04-30T18:52:14.495-04:00To Dan & Mr. Neu Teacher: Following his excomm...To Dan & Mr. Neu Teacher: Following his excommunication, Roy was told by our superior not to speak publicly on women's ordination. We all know how that turned out. As for Maryknoll's financal obligations toward Roy, I was assured by Fr. Dougherty that Roy would still be taken care of. And as to the laicization, I was told you cannot have a freelancing priest. He must either get a diocese to accept him or join another Society willing to give him free reign. Absent that, he will be laicized. Regarding Fr. Miguel D'Escoto, he had the good sense to do his work on behalf of justice without dragging Maryknoll's name into every article about him. Personally, I agree with Roy's ultimate goal, but for better or worse, we as a Society never discussed, much less agreed to any public action supporting women's ordination.Fr. Joe Veneroso, M.M.https://www.blogger.com/profile/14840721527903595971noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6881167609055073107.post-84697037978693411842011-04-27T06:29:09.797-04:002011-04-27T06:29:09.797-04:00When Roy has gone as far down the path of work for...When Roy has gone as far down the path of work for justice as he has, seems to me tactics somewhat trivialize. Exposing and opposing sexism in the church: is this a Big Deal now, or when and how it's tactically expedient? Is it separate ideologically / spiritually from the R. C. hierarchy's policies and practices re: sex abuse, same-sex partner employee benefits (cf: Wuerl with Catholic Charities), or definition of marriage? How long to wait for it be tactically expedient to speak up and out / take a stand? A looong wait, if for the current Catholic hierarchy.Petehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03409006889296396309noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6881167609055073107.post-12052511517841097222011-04-26T12:58:22.692-04:002011-04-26T12:58:22.692-04:00The question is: Was this a tactical error on the ...The question is: Was this a tactical error on the part of the General to demand recanting, thus bringing the vow of obedience to superiors into the picture? It wasn't that way with d'Escoto, was it? Roy was excommunicated, wasn't that enough. Why now does the General have to request Roy be laicisized; isn't this up to Rome? Also, does dismissal mean that MK will then evade the obligation of financial and benefit support to a man who is 74 years old and has served 44 years. Something wrong here, don't you think? Personally, I plan a protest and a picket line around the Knoll during the centennial ceremonies if MK does not do the right thing, including press and TV coverage. Here I stand. I can do no other...indeed!!Danhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13609231449299152346noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6881167609055073107.post-33707024396907321692011-04-13T11:11:34.066-04:002011-04-13T11:11:34.066-04:00You add some good nuances and perspectives to the ...You add some good nuances and perspectives to the general discussion on Ray and women's ordination, Joe. I find I tend to agree with you, mostly finding fault with Ray's strategy, not his object or motivation.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15388280856265672445noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6881167609055073107.post-38868473736056955422011-04-12T13:31:25.331-04:002011-04-12T13:31:25.331-04:00http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johann_von_Staupitzhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johann_von_StaupitzSZEDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09991465882207027274noreply@blogger.com